Auto Insurance Auto Insurance    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Tyres Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next          Auto Insurance Forum Index -> Classic Cars View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Adrian Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Quote: OK, so you can get a G-clamp onto the piston. But not on the P6 Rover... shakes fist at SteveH That's the last time I believe him... Shake your fist at Google, it's all their fault for putting it in an image search for 'Rover P6 rear caliper'. Fuckwits. A bad workman blames his G(oogle)-cramp. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69ntdhF34838bU1@mid.individual.net... Quote: In article <g16c1s$56l$2@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... Oh yes, those "Put the square block into the square hole and the circular block into the circular hole" aptitude tests whilst the NVQs just check that you can do nuts and bolts up, no understanding as to how things work... NVQs didn't even exist when I got my certificates. Pity you didn't learn anything then! Quote: Whatever, you fucking spunk stain. Talking about yourself again. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69ntg2F34838bU2@mid.individual.net... Quote: In article <g16c1s$56l$3@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69not8F3379mkU3@mid.individual.net... In article <1ihe2pk.4lyvnjgr3l22N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH says... Wooo! 'cos main dealer mechanics are all highly trained professionals and not in any way bodging grease monkeys..... I was qualified when it actually meant a toss and before the ability to plug in a computer to tell you what was wrong was introduced. So how come you don't understand how these callipers work then, I'm waiting for you to tell me. After all, you're the one claiming I don't know so educate me. But I already have... Quote: tell us what the set text-book was for C&G levels 1 to 4 then, or have you hit your head and forgotten all you would have learnt back then?... There's no such thing as level 4 CGLI 383 and there was no set text book either. Oh yes there was - on both accounts - so thank *you* for proving that you never took your "C&G Motor Vehicle Craft Studies"... Quote: Thanks for proving you never sat it. No, I never took your dumbed down excuse for an aprentership, I got my qualifications when they were worth they salt, taught us how things work, how and why they go wrong and how to fix them without just opening the box of a service exchange unit, they didn't just teach glorified grease-monkeys how to correctly tighten nuts and bolts in the 'fast-fit' bay... Tell us Conor, seeing that I have told everyone when I started in the motor trade, when did you start - what car model was the new hot British design in the showroom? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Conor Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres In article <g16hm8$jb3$2@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... Quote: "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69ntg2F34838bU2@mid.individual.net... In article <g16c1s$56l$3@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69not8F3379mkU3@mid.individual.net... In article <1ihe2pk.4lyvnjgr3l22N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH says... Wooo! 'cos main dealer mechanics are all highly trained professionals and not in any way bodging grease monkeys..... I was qualified when it actually meant a toss and before the ability to plug in a computer to tell you what was wrong was introduced. So how come you don't understand how these callipers work then, I'm waiting for you to tell me. After all, you're the one claiming I don't know so educate me. But I already have... Where? Where have you demonstrated its operation in regard to the self adjuster? Quote: Oh yes there was - on both accounts - so thank *you* for proving that you never took your "C&G Motor Vehicle Craft Studies"... That was the CGLI 381, dumbass, not the 383. Quote: No, I never took your dumbed down excuse for an aprentership, I got my qualifications when they were worth they salt, taught us how things work, how and why they go wrong and how to fix them without just opening the box of a service exchange unit, they didn't just teach glorified grease-monkeys how to correctly tighten nuts and bolts in the 'fast-fit' bay... Same here, spunkstain. As an apprentice at a Land Rover dealership, the first thing I was given to do to see how I got on was to strip and rebuild a V8. As a mechanic, I once had to cut a gearbox off a car and had to strip it and replace the input shaft I'd had to hack through. Quote: Tell us Conor, seeing that I have told everyone when I started in the motor trade, when did you start - what car model was the new hot British design in the showroom? 1986. Not much in the way of hot new designs as everything was pretty much an update of previous incarnations. -- Conor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Conor Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres In article <g16hm7$jb3$1@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... Quote: "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69ntdhF34838bU1@mid.individual.net... In article <g16c1s$56l$2@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... Oh yes, those "Put the square block into the square hole and the circular block into the circular hole" aptitude tests whilst the NVQs just check that you can do nuts and bolts up, no understanding as to how things work... NVQs didn't even exist when I got my certificates. Pity you didn't learn anything then! More than you, narrow minded spunkstain. -- Conor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Dave Plowman (News) Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres In article <69ndjiF33t57kU1@mid.individual.net>, Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote: Quote: In article <69nc63F341epjU2@mid.individual.net>, Willy Eckerslyke says... Conor wrote: I used a G clamp. I can only go on my experience on the 2000TC I owned. And it works just as well on the Rover 600's as well. Just a thought, but you do realise we're talking about the _rear_ brakes, don't you? Yes. - the inboard fucking things on the P6. My Rover 600 was a 2L with discs all round. So was my 420. In fact, the Capri is the only car I've had without rear discs since before the turn of the century. As a matter of interest what did the 'other' end of the g-clamp bear on? The P6 has just a tin cover over the mechanism on that side rather than the cast iron that is more usual. -- *Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69o45dF32gem1U2@mid.individual.net... <snip> Quote: More than you, narrow minded spunkstain. Talking about yourself again Conor, the facts are, the thread stands witness to just who is the "spunkstain" (as you so elegantly put it)... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69o44pF32gem1U1@mid.individual.net... Quote: In article <g16hm8$jb3$2@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69ntg2F34838bU2@mid.individual.net... In article <g16c1s$56l$3@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69not8F3379mkU3@mid.individual.net... In article <1ihe2pk.4lyvnjgr3l22N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH says... Wooo! 'cos main dealer mechanics are all highly trained professionals and not in any way bodging grease monkeys..... I was qualified when it actually meant a toss and before the ability to plug in a computer to tell you what was wrong was introduced. So how come you don't understand how these callipers work then, I'm waiting for you to tell me. After all, you're the one claiming I don't know so educate me. But I already have... Where? Where have you demonstrated its operation in regard to the self adjuster? news:g13h4a$fo0$1@registered.motzarella.org, anyone who claims to have studied motor vehicle design or engineering will understand exactly (from the ASCII art in that message) how the adjuster works and why applying pressure in the wrong direction could (and probably will) damage the unit. Quote: Oh yes there was - on both accounts - so thank *you* for proving that you never took your "C&G Motor Vehicle Craft Studies"... That was the CGLI 381, dumbass, not the 383. No, I never took your dumbed down excuse for an aprentership, I got my qualifications when they were worth they salt, taught us how things work, how and why they go wrong and how to fix them without just opening the box of a service exchange unit, they didn't just teach glorified grease-monkeys how to correctly tighten nuts and bolts in the 'fast-fit' bay... Same here, spunkstain. Stop talking to yourself... As an apprentice at a Land Rover dealership, the Quote: first thing I was given to do to see how I got on was to strip and rebuild a V8. Liar, more like you looked over the shoulder of someone else... BTW how does one correctly prime the oil pump on one of those Rover V8 engines? As a mechanic, I once had to cut a gearbox off a car and Quote: had to strip it and replace the input shaft I'd had to hack through. Err, and what does that prove, that sort of work was my daily bread for many years after I moved into crash, restoration and car conversions from what had by then become the normal brain-numbing 'service and replace' side of the trade. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Conor Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres In article <4fa407296fdave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) says... Quote: As a matter of interest what did the 'other' end of the g-clamp bear on? The P6 has just a tin cover over the mechanism on that side rather than the cast iron that is more usual. Lump of wood. Whilst the piston can cope with pressure being exerted that way, cast may not be that happy. -- Conor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Conor Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres In article <g16nf7$gke$2@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... Quote: news:g13h4a$fo0$1@registered.motzarella.org, anyone who claims to have studied motor vehicle design or engineering will understand exactly (from the ASCII art in that message) how the adjuster works and why applying pressure in the wrong direction could (and probably will) damage the unit. It worked. It both wound it in and it took up the slack. Quote: As an apprentice at a Land Rover dealership, the first thing I was given to do to see how I got on was to strip and rebuild a V8. Liar, more like you looked over the shoulder of someone else... BTW how does one correctly prime the oil pump on one of those Rover V8 engines? Were you there? No. So keep your WRONG opinions to yourself. Quote: As a mechanic, I once had to cut a gearbox off a car and had to strip it and replace the input shaft I'd had to hack through. Err, and what does that prove, that sort of work was my daily bread for many years after I moved into crash, restoration and car conversions from what had by then become the normal brain-numbing 'service and replace' side of the trade. So you're still a knuckle dragging mechanic then? At least I had the sense to see it for what it was - the typical refuge of the school remedial classes. Most mechanics then and now are people who were incapable of passing O levels. Thanks to the fact I passed my 11+, I got a nice raft of O levels so was able to get out of spannering when I finally recognised it for what it was - the best that 11 plus failures could hope for. -- Conor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor SteveH Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote: Quote: So you're still a knuckle dragging mechanic then? At least I had the sense to see it for what it was - the typical refuge of the school remedial classes. I'd be very careful going down this road.... -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69o7v9F33led2U1@mid.individual.net... Quote: In article <4fa407296fdave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) says... As a matter of interest what did the 'other' end of the g-clamp bear on? The P6 has just a tin cover over the mechanism on that side rather than the cast iron that is more usual. Lump of wood. Whilst the piston can cope with pressure being exerted that way, cast may not be that happy. Whhhoooosssshhhh.... You have just proved that you *are* nothing more than a worthless troll, your understanding is less than someone who has seen these callipers (and the Rover P6), never mind worked on them. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:69o87dF33led2U2@mid.individual.net... Quote: In article <g16nf7$gke$2@registered.motzarella.org>, :Jerry: says... news:g13h4a$fo0$1@registered.motzarella.org, anyone who claims to have studied motor vehicle design or engineering will understand exactly (from the ASCII art in that message) how the adjuster works and why applying pressure in the wrong direction could (and probably will) damage the unit. It worked. It both wound it in and it took up the slack. What 'slack', again you apply demonstrate that you do not understand how these callipers work. the fact that you seem to have been (very) lucky does mitigate that you (to put it simply) bodged a very simple job. All you had to do was turn the piston! Quote: As an apprentice at a Land Rover dealership, the first thing I was given to do to see how I got on was to strip and rebuild a V8. Liar, more like you looked over the shoulder of someone else... BTW how does one correctly prime the oil pump on one of those Rover V8 engines? Were you there? No. So keep your WRONG opinions to yourself. Considering that you didn't answer the question placed proves that you arte a liar, and until you do prove that you know even the most basic of fact regarding working on these engines... Quote: As a mechanic, I once had to cut a gearbox off a car and had to strip it and replace the input shaft I'd had to hack through. Err, and what does that prove, that sort of work was my daily bread for many years after I moved into crash, restoration and car conversions from what had by then become the normal brain-numbing 'service and replace' side of the trade. So you're still a knuckle dragging mechanic then? At least I had the sense to see it for what it was - the typical refuge of the school remedial classes. No I didn't say that at all, looks like you need remedial reading classes, you seem to not understand what the word 'was' means!... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor SteveH Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: ":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: your understanding is less than someone who has seen these callipers (and the Rover P6), never mind worked on them. puts hand up I've never seen a P6 rear caliper up close, but I'm wondering exactly wtf Conor's on about... I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be wound back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like it's a sliding-yoke single-piston design... Here's a picture. http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor :Jerry: Guest Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyres ":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message news:g16r0j$r7$1@registered.motzarella.org... Quote: snip What 'slack', again you apply demonstrate that you do not understand how these callipers work. the fact that you seem to have been (very) lucky does mitigate that you (to put it simply) bodged a very simple job. ....does *NOT* mitigate... 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