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Willy Eckerslyke
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Those who object to the VED also seem to object to the idea of paying for
annual registration too - or even the principle of it even when free, like
SORN.
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Careful with those generalisations Dave. You can't really lump
_everyone_ you disagree with into the same pot. |
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Steve Firth
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> wrote:
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No, I want a public service broadcaster that caters for as many
viewing preferences as possible over the course of a week, and doesn't
just go for instantaneous ratings.
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Not the BBC then, because the BBC has been a rating whore for decades. |
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Dave Plowman (News)
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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In article <ZS7J1fBFHYFIFwRm@oroboros.demon.co.uk>,
Chris Morriss <crsm@oroboros.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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Dave Plowman appears to be a perfectly reasonable chap, but he is
somewhere to the left of Pol Pot. To those of us of a more libertarian
viewpoint, he gets rather tiresome.
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Nice to know you agree with Firth that all taxation is theft and
'Taxation doesn't exist to make poor people better off. It exists for two
reasons, so that politicians can prove to themselves that they have
power over ordinary people's lives and to put money into the Treasury to
pay for the stupid ideas of politicians'.
But perhaps you simply didn't read or understand his statments.
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*'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Jim Warren
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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Richard Porter wrote:
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I thought we'd nailed that one before. The AP box most certainly does
have a three element torque converter. I could drive it in fourth in
slow moving traffic using only the torque converter. You can't do that
with a fluid flywheel. They were normally used in cars like Daimlers,
Lanchesters and Rileys with preselector boxes.
And the Rover 105R |
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Dave Plowman (News)
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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In article <cf111a974f.news@user.minijem.plus.com>,
Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> wrote:
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That's because it didn't have a torque convertor but a fluid flywheel
instead - doesn't cushion changes as well, as many an old Rolls or Merc
owner would testify too also.
I thought we'd nailed that one before. The AP box most certainly does
have a three element torque converter. I could drive it in fourth in
slow moving traffic using only the torque converter. You can't do that
with a fluid flywheel. They were normally used in cars like Daimlers,
Lanchesters and Rileys with preselector boxes.
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A fluid flywheel allows that if the selector mechanism does. In a similar
way as you can start a manual Mini in top gear by slipping the clutch.
The original description of the AP box stated it had a fluid flywheel
instead of torque convertor to reduce losses - and hence the use of four
speeds when all other TC autos of the time had three - or less.
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*Why is the word abbreviation so long?
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Steve Firth
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
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But perhaps you simply didn't read or understand his statments.
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Or perhaps you have a naive and rather trusting view about the real
reason that taxation exists. |
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Dave Plowman (News)
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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In article <1ig4vba.1dnxflfauyp51N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
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But perhaps you simply didn't read or understand his statments.
Or perhaps you have a naive and rather trusting view about the real
reason that taxation exists.
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Unlike you I don't see only in black and white.
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*I don't suffer from insanity -- I'm a carrier
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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:Jerry:
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4f97bbd247dave@davenoise.co.uk...
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In article <1ig4vba.1dnxflfauyp51N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
But perhaps you simply didn't read or understand his statments.
Or perhaps you have a naive and rather trusting view about the real
reason that taxation exists.
Unlike you I don't see only in black and white.
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One advantage of being a sound engineer I suppose, no one notices how
short sighted one is (or more likely becomes [1])?... :~P |
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Steve Firth
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Government response to petition 'Classic-Cars' |
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Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <1ig4vba.1dnxflfauyp51N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
But perhaps you simply didn't read or understand his statments.
Or perhaps you have a naive and rather trusting view about the real
reason that taxation exists.
Unlike you I don't see only in black and white.
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Just black. |
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