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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Re: using regular gas |
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:55:42 -0400, DaveW <yzfr1ny@yahoooo.com> you
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:42:31 -0500, wdg@[206.180.145.133] (New Owner)
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I retired this past May after 33 years with the same company as a licensed
Professional Engineer, starting out as a 'summer hand' on an offshore oil
rig. I took a 2-year leave of absence in 1980/81 to get my masters in
civil engineering, then came back and advanced over the years to the
position of Senior Engineer with 4 direct reports and 16 people under
them. Try as I may I'm consistently an 8 handicap on the golf course but
am pretty proud that all 5 of our kids graduated from college. We haven't
as much in savings as I'd like to have but everything we do have today is
ours. If it's in the driveway or garage or in our home or worn on our
backs, it's not leased or financed or on plastic. It's all paid for.
I've followed the thread, and even with all this personal information,
I still don't understand what makes you so resentful.
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As a member of ASME, I know for a fact that "Senior Engineers" don't
make anywhere near what would be consider "wealthy". As far as his
"direct reports", four isn't that much, nor is 16 "people under them".
Anyway, I've owned five late model Lexues (2 GX's, 1 ES, 1 LS and an
RX). And with the exception of the GS's, the only difference I've seen
in everyday driving between 87 and 91 octane was in my wallet.
I'll add the caveat that is in *my* area under *my* driving
conditions. As always, YMMV. |
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Ray O
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: Re: using regular gas |
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"ACAR" <getoutanpush@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:17f1c728-4fe2-49e1-9680-04c3e61da568@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 15, 1:42 am, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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On long trips where the entire tank is highway, I get about
25 MPG if I don't use the cruise control, and around 24 MPG if I use the
CC.
If my wife or kids drive the car, fuel economy goes down by at least 1
MPG.
I suppose if I slowed down and wasn't passing people around town all the
time and kept my highway speed below 80, I could probably get a little
better fuel economy, but old habits die hard.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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Thanks for all your very professional replies to this and other
newsgroups.
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You're welcome!
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FYI-
1998 Sienna, 3.0 V6, 215,000 miles
Last Xmas I took a little trip to West Palm Beach, FL from the
Baltimore, MD area. I drove straight through each way. I noticed that
my best fuel economy was achieved on 87 Exxon purchased in North
Carolina, in both directions. I suspect the fuel blend is different
there. I get nearly the same mpg (22-25 highway cruising) from the
Sienna (on 87 octane) as you get from the LS but I've gotten better
(27/28 mpg from several tankfuls) when I was driving across the high
plains of Wyoming at around 75 mph. For commuting I can't measure a
consistent benefit of higher octane fuel but on the highway with a
loaded minivan premium does deliver more mpg.
YMMV
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That is great mileage for a Sienna! You must have a steady foot, which I
believe is the trick to maximizing fuel economy.
My weakness is when I am following a vehicle that blocks my view, like an
SUV, van, or truck. Rather than drafting a vehicle that is probably doing a
good job of cutting the air ahead of me, I just have to get around them in
order to have a clear view of the road ahead.
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Ray O
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jdoe
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: using regular gas |
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:42:31 -0500, wdg@[206.180.145.133] (New Owner)
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If you cannot afford the gasoline, you cannot afford the car. Period.
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you just don't get it, it is not about being able to afford the gas,
it is about not buying into the marketing hype that premium is better
for your car, in the case of a lexus it just isn't true and spending
the money for premium is just a needless waste of money.
and nobody gives a hoot about your resume!
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Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. |
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Jay Somerset
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: using regular gas |
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:11:01 -0700, "bluto" <yeager@hotmail.com>
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My owners manual states 87 octane minimum while the dealer mechanic
recommended 91-93 octane (I'm not biting the semantics thread of
premium/super/regular). I have run both 87 and 91-93 and have let the car
decide which one and it prefers the 91-93 octane. It gets slightly better
mileage (both city & highway) and did not have the hesitation problem which
thread was so prevalent the past couple of years. The RPM's are also lower
for equivalent MPH.
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Oh, come on now! That is ridiculous. There is no relationship
between engine performance and/or octane and the ratio of engine
revolutions to tire revolutions.
Perhaps you also upped the tire pressure by 5+ psi? That might make a
very slight difference due to the greater tire circumpherence, but I
doubt if you could even notice it.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: using regular gas |
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As a member of ASME, I know for a fact that "Senior Engineers" don't
make anywhere near what would be consider "wealthy". As far as his
"direct reports", four isn't that much, nor is 16 "people under them".
Anyway, I've owned five late model Lexues (2 GX's, 1 ES, 1 LS and an
RX). And with the exception of the GS's, the only difference I've seen
in everyday driving between 87 and 91 octane was in my wallet.
I'll add the caveat that is in *my* area under *my* driving
conditions. As always, YMMV.
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I am now driving a 2007 GS350 so I'm interested in your statement "except
for the GSs". How was your experience different with different fuels in the
GSs?
I believe it was stated in this thread that using regular instead of Premium
will not "harm" the engine. Is that known to be true?
Also, why would Lexus make their cars potentially less attractive to buyers
by saying they require premium if they do not really and can work just as
well with regular? Is it true that they say regular fuel for cars bought in
Euope?
Jeff |
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St. John Smythe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Re: using regular gas |
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Jeff@unknown.com wrote:
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Also, why would Lexus make their cars potentially less attractive to buyers
by saying they require premium if they do not really and can work just as
well with regular?
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You may want to reexamine your premise, Jeff. The requirement for
premium fuel makes the Lexus *more* attractive to some buyers.
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sjs, just sayin' |
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