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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

On Sun, 25 May 2008 21:57:16 -0400, DaveW <myob@oohay.com> wrote:

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On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:11:50 -0400, "stuart8181"
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Who in their right mind would buy a Lexus 600 hybrid?

Paul McCartney has one, and he seems somewhat successful.
it could be that he has more money than he has brains

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

On Mon, 26 May 2008 08:07:51 -0400, jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> wrote:

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Paul McCartney has one, and he seems somewhat successful.

it could be that he has more money than he has brains

And way more of both than you do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

Is that what a Yugo is called?


On May 25, 2:11 pm, "stuart8181" <stuart8...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Who in their right mind would buy a Lexus 600 hybrid?"GIga" <a...@b.com> wrote in message

news:zd-dnWo2nLhJ6arVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...> Sounds like a great idea.

Is anyone out there interested in buying my (slightly used) LS600hL? It's
a
pretty nice car, but I have to agree with Dave that the Malibu has C&D's
endorsement, and so it must be a better choice. Frankly, I'm embarassed
to
be driving something as second class as my LS600 obviously is, so
hopefully
someone out there will be kind enough to take this pig off my hands. Any
takers?

GIga

"DaveW" <m...@oohay.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 19:16:44 -0700 (PDT), johnah...@hotmail.com wrote:

Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars:

* 2008 BMW 3-series
* 2008 Cadillac CTS
* 2008 Chevrolet Corvette
* 2008 Chevrolet Malibu
* 2008 Honda Accord
* 2008 Honda Fit
* 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata
* 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
* 2008 Porsche Boxster and Cayman
* 2008 Volkswagen GTI

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/best_w...

lists/2008_10best_cars_10best_cars

I think I can speak for all Lexus owners when I say that I really wish
I'd bought a Chevy Malibu instead.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

Once again, a fine example of unarmed dueling idiots. Trust me when I say I
would not trade my LS600 for anything (until the LS800 of course). I've had
8 different LS models, and this one is head and shoulders above all of them
(including my '04 LS430 Ultra). Better ride, quieter, MUCH better
performance, equivalent fuel economy, better sound (probably related to the
acoustic envelope and/or increased deadening materials), better bluetooth
phone, better nav system, better room (especially in the back)... you get
the picture. The only drawback I can find is the trunk space (they had to
put the batteries somewhere I suppose), but even though it's smallER, it's
still quite adequate for my needs.

But I know how unpopular it is with McJerk-off, Long Dong, and apparently
quite a few others to say nice things about Lexus, so I'll try to restrain
myself.

Perhaps it's just jealousy?

Nahhhhhh........ couldn't be.........

GIga
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 08:07:51 -0400, jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> wrote:

Paul McCartney has one, and he seems somewhat successful.

it could be that he has more money than he has brains

And way more of both than you do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:20:57 -0400, DaveW <yzfr1ny@yahoooo.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 26 May 2008 08:07:51 -0400, jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> wrote:

Paul McCartney has one, and he seems somewhat successful.

it could be that he has more money than he has brains

And way more of both than you do.
wow what a clever and witty response, it make one wonder why a man

like you who possess such great intellect is wasting his time with all
the unworthy people here
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

Maybe not making the list is why Lexus 2008 *car* sales have been
*double-digit* downhill?

Jan 2008 Down 17.7%
Feb 2008 Down 13.2%
Mar 2008 Down 11.6%
April 2008 Down 22.1%



On May 21, 7:16 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars:

* 2008 BMW 3-series
* 2008 Cadillac CTS
* 2008 Chevrolet Corvette
* 2008 Chevrolet Malibu
* 2008 Honda Accord
* 2008 Honda Fit
* 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata
* 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
* 2008 Porsche Boxster and Cayman
* 2008 Volkswagen GTI

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/best_w...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

as a 2002 ES300 owner, I can understand the exclusion...I'm just waitng for
the day this transmission falls out the bottom, after all the hard shifting
and hunting that it has done in its lifetime...


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Quote:
Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars:

* 2008 BMW 3-series
* 2008 Cadillac CTS
* 2008 Chevrolet Corvette
* 2008 Chevrolet Malibu
* 2008 Honda Accord
* 2008 Honda Fit
* 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata
* 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
* 2008 Porsche Boxster and Cayman
* 2008 Volkswagen GTI

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/best_worst_lists/2008_10best_cars_10best_cars
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

Mind you, I've stopped recommending the ES even for those who wanted a
dolled-up Camry because of cheesy powertrains. (Some owners don't
realize that ES is basically a Camry with different sheet metals.)

The newer Toyota U-series transmissions unfortunately aren't the best
on the lot. The preferred transmissions these days are the Borg Warner
Direct Shift Gearbox designs (Direkt Schalt Getriebe -- Audi and
Porsche are working on their own versions, like the Porsche Doppel
Kupplungs). These are fuel efficient, high performance transmissions
allowing excellent manual controls -- upshifts in as little as 8 ms,
compared to the Toyota/Aisin clunkers (0.1 sec shifts).



On Jun 29, 12:51 pm, "Lars" <l...@nospam.net> wrote:
Quote:
as a 2002 ES300 owner, I can understand the exclusion...I'm just waitng for
the day this transmission falls out the bottom, after all the hard shifting
and hunting that it has done in its lifetime...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars Reply with quote

I'll alert the media.

Quote:
Mind you, I've stopped recommending the ES even for those who wanted a
dolled-up Camry because of cheesy powertrains.
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